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Okay, so cranky people of the internet can be aware: I SAW WATCHMEN. This now validates all of the opinions I've held. Interestingly enough, the big ones didn't change

I enjoyed Watchmen. It isn't a perfect movie and it's hard for me to judge if I'm a good point of view for discussing a film version, since I've read the comic. I heard it's hard to follow if you haven't read it yet - can anyone confirm that or is it just random people complaining?

Eh, I'll quickly do some point form thoughts under the cut.

- I liked the opening credits, although the effect probably works better on the big screen. It also only really works if you've read the book, since many of the characters are only mentioned in passing.

- WHY is the name "Crimebusters" changed to "Watchmen"? I feel like I'm being treated like an idiot. "Viewers won't know what the title refers to! We need to make it more clear!"

- Ah yes, the gay panic thing. I know some people have talked about there being papers online already about this. I'm very curious and want to read them. There are some points that seem to be comments related to the LGBT community that really serve no purpose except being there. They are references to things from the comic book, but I felt that in the context of the comic they mostly served to flesh out that Rorschach had deep issues with his sexuality.

- Manhattan's penis. From everyone's comments, I was expecting this to be wagging in my face. It was out of scale with the one from the comic, but there was less of it than I was expecting.

- Fight scenes. I think that most of these were just padding or an excuse to make this movie more of a super hero movie.

- Ugh, the rape related stuff. I think that the movie was too light with the emotional fallout from this. There's some attempts at it, but I think fall flat.

- Was I the only person who thought that the Tears for Fears song was funny but might have been a misfire? It's not really anything more than a strange, awkward joke. I laughed, but still.

- I'm greatly amused that the political figures are played to the point of parody. Check out Nixon's nose!

- The guy who played Kissinger especially cracked me up.

- I perfered the comic version of the Blair Roche incident.

- WHY DID THEY CUT VEIDT ON THE TV DURING THAT SEX SCENE? That was the best part of the epic fail! :(

- Third sex scene was awkward. I think that they were attempting comedy that late into the story, because of how dark the movie gets. Like the fight scenes, I think this was padding when none was needed.

- I think the movie drives home the complex relationship between Nite Owl and Rorschach, but I'm undecided on if they're too blunt getting the point across. I picked up on it in the comic, but in the movie, it's more direct. I do think it's one of the more interesting subplots in the book, especially when you mirror Rorschach's fall to the Comedian's fall.

- The ending is passable. I like the squid because the squid is just so over the top and I kinda miss him. And yes, I DID see the Squid monitor.

- There are a lot of subtle details in the film, including some that Laura was picking up for just the first time.

- That said, there are a lot of subplots cut out for time. Some of these make sense, but others, like the fate of Hollis, would clear up some of the main plot. I don't feel that the film is incomplete in the format it's presented in and adding things like the Tales of the Black Freighter would serve only as fan service. Tales of the Black Freighter is neat, but it's tied deeply to the squid plot, which is tossed out completely in the film. Unless the filmmakers can prove outside, I don't think the movie can gain anything from it.

- On a final note, I was amused by the reference to The Architects of Fear. This, again, makes me wonder if a good amount of this film is just intended for fan service. This would explain why WB is cranking about the numbers that the film is getting - they wanted the fanboys to push it forward.

And now that all that is said and done, I please remember that I did enjoy the film. I just think too much.

Date: 2009-03-20 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] urufudo.livejournal.com
Just remember that there's going to be an extended edition that has about 40 minutes of extra footage edited back into the film plus the Tales of the Black Frieghter. So the movie will be about 3.5 hours long, give or take. They actually have filmed all of the cut scenes with the newspaper/comic guys.

Also, after seeing it for a second time, I'm 100% certain that they have shot the scene where Nite Owl strangles the knot-top guy in the bar, asking what happened to Hollis. Plus, there's also a song on the score called "Who Killed Hollis Mason?" ^^ The way that they cut the scene, there's a part where Nite Owl actually looks at a knot-top guy and it cuts without showing them leaving.

The first sex scene was still funny in the epic fail sense. XD But yeah, it would have been funnier with the Veidt on TV. I guess they felt that they could leave it out... which is a little weird since they've been really good at putting a lot of subtle stuff into the film. I actually liked the third sex scene. I laughed because of the song, but I didn't think it was weird or awkward. I'm glad they kept it in. I don't think it was meant to be an attempt at comedy at all.

I also like the fight scenes, because it's nice to actually see all the characters kicking ass. XD

I'm kind of interested in a couple things you mention, like the Architects of Fear. I've still yet to go back and read all of the backstory notes for each chapter and stuff. :O But I liked the ending too. The only thing I don't like about it is that it forces Dr. Manhattan to leave; he could never come back. Makes me a little sad to think that Laurie, Dan and Adrian will never get to see him again, but that's just me thinking too much about what would happen after the story's over. I also like that Laurie and Dan didn't get those horrid hair cuts and change their names. -_-; I thought that part was kind of lame, though understandable considering the police found out who Dan was in the comics.

All in all, I think I love the movie because it brings the characters to life. I have nothing against the art in the comic, but just seeing them as real people is.. I dunno, just really cool. XD Plus the color palettes and the soundtrack are just so awesome. *_*

Date: 2009-03-20 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyat.livejournal.com
I'm thinking of when Laurie slams the button of the flame thrower at the end.

Though, that happens in the comic, doesn't it?


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