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Took yesterday off, since I was feeling right sick at the office on Tuesday and left work early.

A lot of the day, probably too much, was spend dicking around with my paladin on World of Warcraft. After a painful round of Deadmines, it's safe to say that I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO WITH HER.

Hybrid classes in WoW are tricky things. I have a druid and shaman too, but either feel as... awkward as a pally. It's a support class - I GET that. Thing is, I want to like the class, but I don't want to be stuck feeling like I'm going insane while trying to level. I think that I can build a reasonable tank out of her if I respec and upgrade some of my gear. The problem with tanks is what do you do with them while soloing.

I tryed building my warrior as a tank - it didn't end well. At that point warriors were seriously broken and it was impossible for me as a Protection speced warrior to kill things fast enough to stay alive. So, Protection warrior became Fury warrior.

I haven't been enjoying soloing too much with my pally. I thinks the problem is she's specced Holy and I HATE healing. I may respec to Retribution or Protection. Bah.

Date: 2007-03-29 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonygirl.livejournal.com
Ok so after doing some research and talking with some people who have played as pallies, basically I was told that if you want to handle 1-handed weapons then go Protection and if you want 2-handed weapons go Retribution.

I also found a built called the "Tankadin" you can see it here.

As you can see it's mostly Protection but has a few points in retribution.

There is also this. A Holy/Protection built that is kinda a pvp build but you would be able to take a whole lot of crap of damage.

Lastly there is this. uses both Protection and retribution so lots of armour and lots of damage dealing. Kinda also a pvp build too.

In fact Retribution seems to be all pvp builts now that I think about it which is sorta strange. However pallies are hybrid so you basically have to pick a role and then decide.

So if you want to tank which you could do and if I wasn't getting so much darn lag last night maybe able to do it. I mean you were able to get those guys off of me I know warriors that can't even do that.

In the end it's really up to you. I still can't believe VC never dropped anything that kinda makes me mad, our relationship is so over. I should had filed a ticket. :P

Date: 2007-03-29 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbehemoth.livejournal.com
Ya it seems for grinding/solo the DPS build is always the best. Whether it was my Combat Swords Rogue, Shadow Priest or Fury Warrior. Generally chewing through a mob is more effective then taking lot so damage/healing.

But even then, I found my rogue best as a "Hybrid" build so I was mostly Combat with some subtley and assasin. If I hadn't I would not have improve sap!

Anyways this is just empty ramblings as Katie basically covered the whole Tankadin... "Lets get it on!" Oh wait, he was a Healadin "Don't worry baby, I have the seal of protection."

Date: 2007-03-29 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbehemoth.livejournal.com
Warriors not peeling mobs? I guess they used there taunt just to hold the mob from the beginning...

Date: 2007-03-29 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com
I thought the rule of thumb with warriors was to sunder and then use taunt later. Odd. Mind you, I saw the winners that usually run Deadmines with Kate last night. We had a warrior come in to tank orignally with a 2-hand sword that broke five minutes in. Oh, and he didn't sunder.

The "peeling" I think Kate is refering to is Righteous Defense, which is sorta like a warrior's Taunt, but the mechanics are a touch different. Instead of casting it on a mob, you cast it on the player being attacked.

Date: 2007-03-29 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com
Your build is lawls like you would not believe. There are rogues that whine and cry that their guildmates want them to spec for improved sap (apparently, it's wanted for higher instances) and how that's going to lower their DPS. Meanwhile, you're speced for improved sap and are murdering the DPS of rouges levels higher than you.

The problem with Pallies is that they've always been "low DPS, hard to kill". That changed somewhat with BC, but it's still something that I'm trying to figure out how to work with.

Date: 2007-03-29 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com
It's a shame that VC drops the Defias chest piece and not the leg piece. If that was the case, you could say "VC dropped his pants for me!" Freakin' VC. I still say that was a glitch.

Retribution is a DPSadin, but I'm wondering if that means dumping all survivalability in exchange for more damage. I do like the third build, though.

Date: 2007-03-29 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonygirl.livejournal.com
Yeah well I've seen some pretty bad warriors in my time playing wow. I just healed the warrior too I mean I was 26 and the warrior was 22 but still. Rach's pally was able to get the mobs off me and she was 19...

Date: 2007-03-29 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonygirl.livejournal.com
It must be a glitch, stupid VC no love for him. :P

Retribution doesn't mean certain death, they can hold aggro really well. I mean I had one good DM run with a pally spec that way let's just say the warrior was off-tank. XD

However I think it all comes down to how you play, you can have the best spec and be the worst warrior in the game. I mean wasn't it Mike who said "Were level 40 and we finally know how to play our class."

Date: 2007-03-29 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonygirl.livejournal.com
Well there is that but I was actually referring to me running towards you and the mobs attacking you instead of me or you coming to save my behind. :P

Date: 2007-03-29 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com
Speaking of that, after the DM run I dinged 20 and got my "light-up-the-ground-sorta-aoe-with-high-aggro-attack", which will make it easier to dump the aggro off of you and onto me.

Date: 2007-03-30 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbehemoth.livejournal.com
OOoh! I forgot about this:



Some notes about this. It was a 12 man raid against Blightcaller. I survived the battle with him and his dogs but fell after because of the 50 or so Skeletons created by healing (apparenly no one had researched this prior). I even held his aggro for 30 seconds and survived (and bandaged after someone peeled him and proceeded to create skeletons). The yellow bars are rogues and there is four of them. The one below me was level 67 and one below that was 63. That was my greatest accomplishment. Even better was that I was saving for my mount and had none of my new skills for level 60.

But now I am suffering and I've seen my DPS start to plateau until I catch up my training. I struggled to keep with a level 64 mage the other night. Made me cry...

Date: 2007-03-30 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbehemoth.livejournal.com
That is correct. I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm communicate on the interweb as well.

Date: 2007-03-30 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mbehemoth.livejournal.com
Wha? Me makes no sense. That should of said "Sarcasm does not communicate on the interweb as well" or something to that extent.

Date: 2007-04-02 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] commanderteddog.livejournal.com
BC training is teh wacky. The only notable thing for hunters was Steady Shot, which I love, as it's strong shot that doesn't drain as much mana as the rest of my shots.

But, the rest of the new skills?

Aspect of the Viper - Used to help with mana use, but it kills some of my attack power
Kill Command - Lets the pet do 127 more damage after a crit. Can be seen as aggro management.
Snake Trap - Novelty skill that's only good at doing casting interrupts.
Misdirection - Aggro management skill.

In other words, mostly utility and not so much DPS.
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